, you know, the sense that we are a country that on foreign power, survives, and richard drops in every couple weeks, every couple months to see how we're doing. we allow him that, and that's because of great shame, and, you know, mr. holbrooke, who i count as one of my many cosmic enemies -- [laughter] >> really? >> many. david miliband is another. i'm biting my nails over sanity, but so, came into pakistan to push for the lugar bill to give $7 billion to pakistan over five years for development aide, and the conditions are completely repugnant, and we have to open up everything to receive this money, and richard holbrooke came in and said those against the lugar bill are against democracy in pakistan. that's rich. >> yes, down in front. microphone, two seconds to get to you. >> thank you for your presentation. fascinating. this is a little bit off the subject, but i wonder if you followed the case and if you're aware that she was sentenced yesterday here in new york to 876 years. -- 86 years in prison. >> yes. >> comment on why she's become a national icon in pakistan. >> i think she'